GOTOKY 100% Off-Grid Communication Device

Dear Austin, firstly we are tremendously sorry for your loss.
And thank you for your opinion about the "bulky-ness".
In Gotoky we are trying our best, that the product will be finished and ready by all regulations to be used as soon as possible.
We are really and truly grateful for all the support and the understanding you backers are giving us.

I just got the update in an email recently. I would very much be ok with the device being "bulky" to survive crashes. I'd rather it survive the environment it was intended for instead of it "looking nice". I really wish these would've come out sooner. The only reason I got them were for when my wife and I go to festivals and travel. She died in December so now I have no one to use these with anymore...

Again over a month without an update.
I'm not filled with confidence in this project. If the creators can't even keep us up to date on the progress, how can they manage something as complicated as building an electronic device?

I,ve got a message on Facebook!
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They´re preparing an update -> comming soon :-)
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*fingers crossed* that there were no significant delays ...
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Last Update is from February, but on Indiegogo:
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gotoky-most-secure-private-off-grid-network-smartphone--2/x/17416283#/updates/all
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Seems they are VERY busy ;-)
I´ve just tryed to reach them via Facebook and Website.
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Hope they come in contact here very soon ...
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Any chance of an update please. Hope things are progressing well, but equally if not, would be nice to know. Wishing you all the best.

Do we need to get worried?
Over 2 month since the last update or official communication.

Have you any updates planed for the near future? The last one was over a month ago.
Are you still on schedule for the production next month?

I wish you all a merry christmas, and furthermore i like to hear any news of the ongoing project ;-)

@Denis:
Hi Denis, Thank you very much, with the free-color-choice you have conjured a big smile in my face :-) I am glad that you share the further development with us backers! Again, thanks for the wishes

@Peter
Hi Peter, thank you for your questions. No problem about 4th question we also speak German, but for the sake of comment wall it's good to have it english.
2. Normally we are planing to box the devices like we said in the story. But this first batch we'll be small and boxed manually so we can pack the content according to backers desires.
4. Yes we removed the stretch goals because we didn't achieved them. But like I said we we'll work on them and we'll be available with upgrades. We are already working on 2nd hop to triple the communication distance. This Kickstarter campaign is just a beginning of our journey and Gotoky will definitely grow, we have great support from backers like you and also already great business partners behind. I'm really glad that you Peter and other backers are part of our journey. Wish you a great trip to Namibia! Denis

@Jason
Hi Jason, I'm sorry that you feel that way. I believe that we answered all normal questions and give you guys a lot of evidence that we are real and the device is real. We totally disclosed our self to you whit even very personal information about us.
So Jason I really don't understand about what non-transparency are talking. Anyway wish you all the best, Denis

@Anne
Hi Anne, your comment is absurd and I really don't know how to respond to that.
I wish you all the best, Denis

I must say i'm still concerned about the dishonest methods you guys used to market this campaign, like self-pledging and self-commenting. I'm also disappointed by the way you guys responded to these accusations - ignoring them, or telling people they are spams, or writing redundant responses to push the comments down. I expect an honest team to address questions and accusations head on, instead of beating around the bush and hoping the problem would just go away. As a result of your deceptive marketing practices and lack of transparency I will be withdrawing my pledge. I still strongly believe in the value of off grid communication network. I just hope it were done by a more trustworthy team of people.

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Thank you Denis for the quick response, I just increased my pledge. :-) 1.
Thanks for the claryfing, that´s Great! 2.
In the description on the landing page is: "It comes in a box of 2 Gotokys (Red and Turquoise strap) and in a box of 1 (Lime strap)." and the description of the "Super Early Bird GOTOKY 4" is: "(Two Boxes of Gotoky pair Gotoky Red + Gotoky Turquoise)" I would be very happy to receive "One Box of Gotoky pair Red Gotoky Red + Gotoky Red AND Two Boxes of Gotoky Lime" instead :-) if possible. 3.
Perfect! 4.
I think, i´m not the only one, who would like to give a fee for some of the (formerly? Are they gone from the page?) Strechgoals... Thanks again for your response an for the wishes :-) Can´t wait to get the devices ... Regards
Peter

Just realised, that i write my last post in german, Sorry!
Here again: Oh, a fourth question ;-) It looks unfortunately as if the Strechgoals stay far away :-( However, there are some like-to-have, it may be possible, some of them as an add-on?

Hi everybody, we must apologise again to everybody, including our investors and community of Kickstarter who has supported our campaign because of very unappropriated comments and extremely rude and jerky behaviour we are experiencing on our comment section, specially from someone who does not respect any of Kickstarter rules called @Paul Nash. We are still investigating who wants to sabotage our campaign and project. Thank you again for supporting our project. Denis

Sheet of FACTS 1.This team isn’t Dutch as they originally say they are. They are from some East Europe post-Communist place called Slovenia. Source: check comments; 2.The “Andy” accident that someone named "Andy" has answered HIS OWN QUESTION as "Denis from Gotoky Team" (just roll down to find this “Andy”). The creators claim this was done by some mysterious bad people. Source: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/986101367/comments;; 3. They believe they are superior to Americans as they are "Europeans". Source: check comments 4.They initially tried to conceal the fact that they are from East Europe but failed. A backer figured out their true identity then suddenly, these “Belgians, Dutches and Americans” started to be very proud of their true country Slovenia and accuse that backer as ignorant Americans. And that user was soon flagged as spam. Source: comments; 5.They have been badmouthing their competitors Sonnet and goTenna WITHOUT plausible technical explanations at all. Source: comments; 6.Sonnet and Beartooth can do EVERYTHING this product can, while Sonnet is CHEAPER and MORE USEFUL and Beartooth is an ACTUAL EXISTING product. goTenna can do most of it and is also an ACUAL EXISTING PRODUCT. Sources:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sonnet/sonnet-decentralized-mobile-communication
https://www.beartooth.com/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gotenna/gotenna-mesh-off-grid-people-powered-connectivity
Why bother taking the risk while there are more decent reliable options? The other brands at least DON LIE and are AMERICAN!
7.This product’s features are 100% IDENTICAL to Beartooth and Beartooth has already started shipping. You know this sounds like?

Just check the sources and you will agree with me!

@Peter Hi Peter, thank you for your questions and comments.
1. Yes, Gotoky can set up appropriate frequency and power output automatically according to current GPS location. However, frequency and power output can be also setup manually in the settings.
2. Gotoky loops are in 3 colors, red color is our primary color. By ordering 4-pack you'll receive 2x red loop, 1x turquoise loop, 1x lime loop. I hope this is ok.
3. Gotokys are sent from Slovenia where the production and assembly is. Because Slovenia is part of the EU, there are no customs when shipping to Germany.
4. Stretch goals will be done gradually anyway and we'll be part of the software upgrades you'll receive. At this moment we are working on 2nd hop to triple your distance, even if it's part of the stretch goal. I wish you pleasant and adventurous voyage to Namibia. Wish you all the best, Denis

Oh, noch eine vierte Frage ;-) Es sieht ja leider so aus, als wenn die Strechgoals in weiter ferne bleiben :-( Allerdings sind da einige like-to-have dabei, wird es ggf. möglcih sein, einige davon als Add-On anzubieten?

Hi Katja, Denis and the other creators! I like this project and have the fullest confidence in you! I Have three questions: 1.
Over the next few years, we plan a longer journey (at least one year) from Germany to Namibia and back by car. Now I wonder if all the traversed countries are covered by the automatic setting. Or is it - somewhere in the middle of nowhere ;-) - possible to set the frequency and the output itself? 2.
Right now I'm on a 3-pack-super-early-bird, and I'd like to switch to a 4-pack-super-early-bird, but that's still the thing with the color of the loops .... -> My absolute favorite color is Lime-Green :-) but in the 4-Pack Pledge this is not included :-( Is there a possibility to choose the colors at the end? 3.
Where are the Gotokys sent from? With regard to customs and taxes, it is not entirely unimportant for me (Germany): - | I am looking forward to a reply Best regards Peter

Hi @Frederic,
Again: we have two companies, in Netherlands and Slovenia. As you have accurately said Kickstarter does not allow to run campaign from Slovenia so we naturally chose Netherland's company. Anyway as we have mentioned many times, our team is international, with big network in Netherlands and Slovenia.
We have been every honest - about many things.. we have even reveal so many details about our startup path and we gave all the facts:
we have been in 2015 selected into the elite hardware accelerator HighTech XL in Eindhoven Netherlands,
where we were recognised as the most promising startup of a generation; we were Finalists of the Central European Startup award 2016 and a year later recognised as one of the top 100 startups of Central Europe.. But what is most important here is very real and good product we have over the years developed- all the proven demos and details.

@creator, can you please comment on the fact that Kickstarter doesn't allow campaigns from Slovenia, and on why you wouldn't just tell us the truth from the beginning. Kickstarter is a community 100% based on trust, and the only way to run a successful campaign is through openness and honesty.

Dear @Paulina W, happy you find our Route recording truly useful. As woman, concerning kids/family safety as one of the most important issues, we have worked very hard to provide Real off-line tracking and Emergency Location Beacon as call for help as one of the most important value prepositions of our device. I hope, if your friend will find it useful for family safety we have done what our our company's aim is: to improve safety and connections in areas where people used to be completely isolated! I wish you and your friend and family beautiful and safe holidays in the future! Katja Lipicnik- Co-Founder of Gotoky

@Paul
Hi Paul. I believe we have answered to all relevant questions.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

Unreal? This is such an overt lie.
I left SOURCES for my last comments so people can tell that everything I m telling is VERY REAL!
In fact, I was simply summarizing what we know from here and other public sources!

@Paulina
Hi Paulina. Yes, Route recording works everywhere in open area no matter what is your altitude as long as GPS on your Smartphone is working. Hope this helps, Denis

@James
Hi James. I'm sorry that you think like that. I think we provided lots of evidence that we are real and that our product is real. We flagged as spam only messages with unreal content. About what we offer I think backers and potential backers know the difference.
Thank you James for your comment.

@Gotoky So you mark people's messages as spam when you don't like what they say? I guess that's exactly what I'd do if I was trying to scam people. Instead of addressing the concerns and acknowledging that previous products exist and what you offer that they do not (from what I can tell, nothing) you mark the messages as "spam" and tell everyone to ignore them. That's just another red flag if you ask me. I wish everyone here luck.

@Gotoky thank you for your answers! :) I checked the Route recording feature and it looks really useful for such cases! Just to make sure, will this feature (among others) work even in high altitudes such as Hintertux approx. 3500m? thanks

And another thing added to @Paulina W. answer: Gotoky is perfect device specially for families going hiking or travelling abroad together and have different points of interests what to see or visit; you can create event locations, make route recordings and you can take notes along the route.- have a look of app nicely presented Route recording on our campaign page :)

Dear backers, Paul Nash, Anne, Andy are considered as spam and already reported as such! Please do not consider their comments as relevant. If you have any additional questions about Gotoky, do ask.. and we are more than happy to answer! Thank you. Denis and Katja, Founders

Oh btw, can someone tell me who are the mysterious bad people controlling me? It seems unreasonable for their competitors to sabotage this campaign when it is already performing 20x worse than competing products such as goTenna, Sonnet, and Beartooth.
Or maybe CIA, FBI, or Russian government? Their control over the human race might be threatened by this NOTHING NEW gadget, right?
In fact, there is a STRONG incentive for these people to self-promote an already failing campaign!

So who is controlling me? DAMN I m so confused that I need to return to my secret base to fix myself.

6.They have been badmouthing their competitors Sonnet and goTenna WITHOUT plausible technical explanations at all. Source: just check comments;
7.Beartooth can do EVERYTHING this product can while Sonnet can do more. goTenna can do most of it. Source: just search these names here or on google;
8.This product’s features are 100% IDENTICAL to Beartooth and Beartooth has already started shipping;

5.Germany is this campaign’s second largest market while there are so far NO COMMENTS from German backers. This is also the case for their own country Slovenia. Many backers, but NO COMMENTS....are they all “Andy”? Source: click "Community" button on this page.

4.They initially tried to conceal the fact that they are from Slovenia by saying “” but failed. A backer figured out their true identity then suddenly, these “Belgians, Dutches and Americans” started to be very proud of their true country Slovenia and accuse Americans of being ignorant, rude, and uneducated.
And that user was soon flagged as spam. Source: check comments

OH MY LORD, quite a fancinating drama going on here!
So.... since I m an AI or a bot, according to the creators, let me just do what an AI or bot is good at, summing up what we know: 1.This team isn’t Dutch as they originally say they are. They are from some East Europe post-Communist place called Slovenia. Source: check comments;
2. People from Slovenia are not allow to do campaign on this platform at all. Source: https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creator+questions;
3.The “Andy” accident that someone named "Andy" has answered HIS OWN QUESTION as "Denis from Gotoky Team" (just roll down to find this “Andy”). The creators claim this was done by some mysterious bad people. Source: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/986101367/comments;

@Anne, you are spamming again! @'Aman' posed a question on 26 of September (As well on 25 of September) and we figured out we were not very thorough with the answer of that particular last question of his (among other questions we have answered)! I do apologies to pledger @Aman - superbacker because of these ignorant accusations! Apparently someone is trying very hard to sabotage on false pretence our campaign! We have reported this person spam!

@James
See my comment below.

This is so funny.
Below is a living testimony that these shameless people are still playing the game of self-pledging and self-commenting.
They were replying to someone named 'aman' but there is no one named 'aman' here at all!
The only explanation is that they self-pledged as "aman", planned to comment as "aman", then reply. But they just forgot to comment first before replying.

@aman
Hi aman, Every Gotoky in the network works as a relay, this function is enabled by default. But user has an option to exclude him self from being a relay for others by turning the relay function off. Unfortunately you can't create two or more separate relay network group.
But as each message is encrypted and only sender and receivers can understand it you can create two or more separate groups. So everybody within group can understand each other but one group will not understand other groups and so on. I hope this is clear enough, Denis

Hi @Paulina,
according to the question you had about real-time off-line tracking function of Gotoky: we would like to say that on a detailed maps you find many detailed data about the selected person (for example if your friend has selected her children to track them on the map while skiing): very accurate location (GPS location), distance and direction to selected person in km or miles, the time of last received location, short cut to voice communication, shortcut to group chat, short cut to phone book... Plus additionally if person with Gotoky finds himself/herslef in a trouble, you can, with just one press on a app button activate emergency signal (call for help), and then other Gotokys will receive a big full-screen orange alert window as notification that someone is in distress.  By clicking on the distressed person's information Gotoky users can easily check the location of the person and all the mentioned data before or even start a conversation. This particular feature – “Emergency location Beacon” can be activated by Gotoky itself- if the smartphone’s battery is being empty or even when the smartphone is broken- just by pressing on the button on Gotoky. The “Emergency” Location Beacon is automatically and repeatedly broadcasted and relayed over the Gotoky network - so each Gotoky, including those beyond your range, will receive person's distress call.

I'm glad @Anne was here to point everyone else to the other projects that this seems to be copying. I pledged just to give everyone a heads up that this seems to be a copy of gotenna: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gotenna/gotenna-mesh-off-grid-people-powered-connectivity
And even if this isn't a scam (I agree with @Anne that it probably is), why take the risk of it being a scam when you could purchase the exact same thing that's already on the market. I'm reporting this project.

Well I think I might have just figured out why these people disguised themselves as a Dutch team to take people's money from here.
According to Kickstarter's rules, "Project creation is currently available to individuals in the US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Hong Kong, Singapore, Mexico, and Japan..." https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creator+questions

My guess is that this is a way to prevent dishonest campaigns like this from even getting onto the platform. You must have successfully slipped through their prevention mechanism by pretending to be Dutches. In comparison, all your competitors come from places allowed by this platform... goTenna is from New York City, Sonnet is from Canada and Beartooth is from Montana, USA.

@Paulina
Hi Paulina. Yes Gotoky offers real-time tracking of all Gotokys in a range. Each Gotoky receives user's GPS location from Smartphone connected to Gotoky. So each person (child) needs to have Gotoky and Smartphone. If Smartphone in any case stop working Gotoky stores last received GPS location from Smartphone and sends this location.
Of course Gotokay can be also setup to not to broadcast it's own location. Hope this helps, Denis

Hi, I have a question regarding ‘real-time off-line tracking’ function you mention. If I understand that correctly you can see where people are on the map? I am wondering how detailed it is? My friend has 3 kids and would like to see on the map their location when they go skiing since they are not together the whole time and the slopes are huge. Would she be able to track their kids if every family member has their own Gotoky? Thanks for your answer.

Hi,

@Anne Hi Anne. I'm sorry that you think like that. Please check out this video about our product - it's dated to 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch…
I'm sorry, but it's in Dutch. Hope this helps. Denis

I just did some research into this category and I found there are 3 other brands, all from America, and all precede these people. Just search goTenna, Sonnet and Beartooth. This gotoky is almost indentical to Beartooth, which is from Montana, USA and has already started shipping with real products in customers hands. The features are exactly the same.
The chances are these gotoky people purchased one Beartooth and then shamlessly reverse-engineered the it and pretend it's their own invention.

(The respect needs to be mutual. So this is my response to these people's vicious smear.)