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Neuroon Open Smart Sleep Enhancing Wearable

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4.7?
Discovered on 2017-07-03

Smarten up the way you relax with the Neuroon Open Smart Sleep Enhancing Wearable. This mask uses the latest technology to monitor and analyze your sleep. Using the app, you can view valuable feedback into your sleep habits. You can make adjustments in your bedroom to contribute to your best rest. During your sleep, the Neuroon detects your REM phase, temperature, and overall sleep quality. Incredibly, it then adjusts the temperature, turns down music, and slowly lights the room for smart wake-ups. In addition, the Neuroon Open can also help induce lucid dreaming as well as meditation. Because Neuroon Open is open source, you can tailor the device to you. Finally, the Neuroon app is a central place to find all of the metrics and details of your sleep. The EEG monitor can tell you about your brain waves, deep sleep vs, light sleep, heart rate, and more. With the Neuroon Open, you can enhance every part of your sleep.

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Features :
Sleep Monitor, Lucid Dreaming, Meditation, Smart Wakeups
Color :
Black
Sensor :
EEG
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Jean-François Baure
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@Thomas: Bellabee does not appear to measure any physiological signal on your body (?), and I don't know much about PEMF therapy.
Jean-François Baure
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Maybe we should not wait the end of the year (all the shippings are now supposed to be completed by the end of the year, no date given) to organize ourselves should this project fail to deliver what it should, with a complete refund out of question (*) ? What do you think guys ? Should we act legally if we have a new, bad surprise (no mask & app by the end of the year) or/and to put pressure on Inteliclinic ? Since Inteliclinic San Francisco does not seem to be a legal entity, a collective action would probably have to be undertaken in Poland / Warsaw ? (collective action starting from 10 people, foreign plaintiffs can join it). Are there backers in Poland among us ? (*) (mask v2.0 + IOS/android app with all the described features: hypnogram + stats, meditation aid, lucid dreaming aid, IoT, etc). We have not been updated about the software developement for months (since it was internalized ?)(Now, the hardware production is also internalized).
Thomas
Review from Kickstarter
Has anyone seen the project "Bellabee - helps with Sleep, Anxiety, PTSD, ADHD"? Any opinios? @Jean-François Baure - can you pls comment on http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bellabee-helps-with-sleep-anxiety-ptsd-adhd-bluetooth/x/17152463#/ in comparison with Neuroon? Thanks much
Dean
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@Spencer - agreed, which makes me pretty sure getting a refund is just not going to happen. If your Credit Card vendor does allow charge backs more than 6 months from date go for it if you're unsure.
Laura Milstein
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When is this product set to ship?
Spencer Patterson
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@Dean - This seems more and more like a scam / HALF A$$ED project.
@Jeremy - Look at the comments on Kickstarter from the V1 release. This should have been my first clue that this was a bad idea to pledge.
Jeremy
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Jean - I've met the team several times in San Francisco in the past. We used to work out of the same co-working space. They moved to a different space a long time ago, however. Admittedly, I haven't heard from the team lately, but if you know their registered address I can see about getting in touch again. In the past they were very responsive. This is also the V2 of their product, and their first product did ship successfully.
Dean
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@Spencer - it won't happen, same as almost every other kickstarter campaign. The likely reply will be "no refunds until shipping commences as all funds tied up in manufacturing."
Spencer Patterson
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I have asked several times for my money back. This creator seems more and more like a scam. I reported this to kickstarter and I will report this to my credit card company next if we don't hear back from the author of this project soon.... I want a refund.
Robert Ireland
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@Jean-François Baure - It's a rocketspace office. They probably rented a desk there for the address.
Jean-François Baure
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Would there be a backer able to verify that the Inteliclinic branch in San Francisco is real which seems not, its structure (corporation, limited liability company or partnership, etc...) and its licence/permit to operate in California ?
Spencer Patterson
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I have requested three times now for my money back for this project and no response from the creator. Failed delivery date by 6+ months. Not interested anymore. GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK PLEASE! Thank you
Dean
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@Marco - direct contact through here, website, email etc. I more meant I'd hope anyone that's a collaborator doing paid work would have more than a KS Comments section as their means of comms haha.
Marco Nissen
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I don’t think there is any other possibility to contact them except for the comments section ..
Dean
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@Blazon PR - is the comments section the only way you have to contact them? I'd sincerely hope not. Surely you have phone etc?
Marco Nissen
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Can somebody out there please summarize what the current state on the estimated shipment date(s) is ?
Jean-François Baure
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Wow, Neuroon former collaborators complaining here now...
this cast some serious doubts on the goodwill of Inteliclinic. I wonder if this is really a problem of communication: this is more and more looking like they are trying to escape from their obligations & responsabilities or to evade liabilities.
Loosing faith in this project, in its creator's goodwill and true intend. Sad to see a good, original idea going awry...
Blazon PR
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Hi Neuroon, who is in charge now? Why are you not responding to us? You have not paid your invoices. Why are you ignoring us? Please contact us immediately.
Edwin
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@Blazon PR communication is terrible - I also didn’t get any response for a message I sent in April...
Blazon PR
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Hello Neuroon - why are you not responding to us? You have an outstanding balance with us.
Blazon PR
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Please get in touch with us immediately. info@blazonpr.com
Laura Milstein
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When is this shipping??????
Hugh Duddy
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Can you please reply to the address change I sent to you,thanks.
youlian
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weirder and weirder... so how many months is this project behind schedule? 6-8?
would we be lucky enough to get something for xmas 2018?
Aaron
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@Jean-François Baure I would also like to add your comments. On top of working to release the first version of the software, there will the need for ongoing work and maintenance. Andriod and iOS don't stand still. Any longterm software project is a living creature. There will need to be ongoing updates as both the hardware and software advance for the mobile devices. If Inteliclinic can't even respond to facebook messages and comments on kickstarter, it leads me to be concerned about the shelf life of my neuroon mask.
Jean-François Baure
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The electronic boards will now be manufactured directly by Inteliclinic: what is the rate of pcb production you expect to meet ? Knowing this would allow a better estimation of the shipping date as a function of the backer number... isn't it a new risk and potential source of further delay ? (since Inteliclinic is not experimented/specialized for such scale of pcb manufacturing). But again, hardware production is only one side of the issue (not anticipated as a problem, production: october 2017, not the core of this project) and I now hope that the internal ressources you will have to allow to this unanticipated, new, large task for a small company (producing, testing and validating several thousands units in a few months) will not impair the development of the IOS / Android app which is crucially needed by all the backers (who are not c++/java/... coding experts) to fully use their mask, which is the cause of the 1st delay, and which is the real goal of this Neuroon Open project (as you described it in your KS campain). You had a problem with you subcontractor and decided to code it yourself, we don't have news since.
We have learnt in the past few months that you don't communicate/update us about bad news, and I thought (Facebook update) that you had understood that it is not a nice way to operate or a good way to get understanding & support.... yet the last update about the core of the project (IOS / Android App development) is getting older and older and questions remain unanswered (despite being reiterated).
Neuroon Open
Review from Kickstarter
The new production model becomes a fact. After long negotiations with our old subcontractor, we managed to recover our electronic components and successfully bring them to our headquarters to use them for inhouse production. You can read about it in our latest update from today.
Jean-François Baure
Review from Kickstarter
@Neuroon Open: your persistance into not keeping us updated about the IOS and Android application (which is the main part of this project) is a bit worrying (for the people still willing to wait a bit to get a better product).
Neuroon Open
Review from Kickstarter
Today we have for you an update describing our work from the last days, which led to the improvement of the quality of the signal received by our EEG amplifier. In the next updates we will describe you the exact timeline and the process of moving the production to us and to our new factory.
Jurij Kulik
Review from Kickstarter
My backer No. is 556. I've pledged on Jun 27th 2017. You've promised to deliver till the End of 2017. It was delayed, ok, no problem. Then you've promised to deliver in April, but now it's May. When will you ship?
Jean-François Baure
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@Neuroon Open: I hope that the further delay will translate as a better quality of the electronic board/battery, and that the sensor contact with the skin will be improved to be maintained throughout the night ... but the subcontractor's failure to deliver crucial mobile app components that would meet our quality requirements was the reason why you delayed the first deliveries from dec. 2O17 to april 2018. What is the development stage of the neuroon open app ? Have the problems of app stability and synchronization with the mask been solved ? Is the data link more robust ? Has the signal processing (including Viterbi) been transcoded to c++ ? What is the development status of the meditation, lucid dreaming or IoT features ? Where do we stand with the Android version of the app ?
Neuroon Open
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Moving production to a new factory is quite a challenge, but it will allow us to have much better control over the quality. I invite you to read today’s update, from which you will know how we are testing new batteries and how we have fixed the power management problems we have been facing so far.
Neuroon Open
Review from Kickstarter
Last week we’ve made a Facebook live in our group- Neuroon Open Insiders, where we want to invite all of you (we need to accept your request- it may take us up to 24h):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/255758021558995/ Please take a look at it. We’ve described there last weeks of our work, difficulties that we’ve experienced and how we’ve managed to overcome them.
Alexander Demenshin
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Guys, April is gone, May is almost gone - do you have any *realistic* ETA? Sorry to say that, but your updates are just bla-blas, no real transparency and indication of progress - despite all promises. I (and many others, I believe) don't mind to wait - but I want to know how long, with realistic ETA. Please keep your promises and make things really transparent - so we know that you are really progressing.
Jean-François Baure
Review from Kickstarter
Inteliclinic has also a branch in San Francisco:
Inteliclinic Inc., 180 Sansome St, San Francisco, CA 94104, États-Unis Rouslan seems right to me: 1) KS is not liable for this, only the creator is. 2) Delays are an expectable thing on any new projects. But this new project is mainly about the coding of an IOS and Android application, the required tool to plainly use (display synthetic data about your sleep, configuration / settings / mode) your mask (unless you want to code it yourself)... and this was to be open sourced. Robo Durden seems also right to me when he points out that the github neuroon open core (https://github.com/inteliclinic/NeuroonOpenCore) has not shown of recent signs of activity (most of it is 1 yr old). So the launch of the manufacturing process is very very late (and I find the PCB problem hard to believe ... there are legions of PCB manufacturers, it is a very competitive market, and the bare PCB unitary price if you order 1000 of them is a small fraction of the mask price) but the open source software which is the main goal of this project is also very very very late. The only available febuary version in IOS seems to be a pre 1.0 version (very difficult to synchronize with the mask), only meant to give us a rought idea of what it will be (or not). The creator should be able to explain why we got so far from the originate schedule for both the hardware manufacturing and more importantly the open source IOS/Android application (the Polish study was not mentionned as a source of further delay but...).
Rouslan Cherbina
Review from Kickstarter
Kickstarter and Indiegogo are just like a lottery. No guarantee that you will get your promised item at all. Just solely depends upon a creator.
This project is a legitimate so far. Delays are a normal thing on KS.
Rick Betancur
Review from Kickstarter
Anyone do a charge back yet with their credit card company? I'm assuming it would charge back to kickstarter, I wonder if a charge back would stick. I suppose it depends on how responsible Kickstarter is, and I'm sure they have a lot of fine print in their agreement that releases them from responsibility. I'm about ready to try a charge back and be honest with my CC company and let them hash it out. I wish these guys were in the US to report them to regulatory agencies and such for investigation. What a huge scam.
Sebastien Valiela
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C’est une arnaque et kickstarter ne fait rien c’est honteux
laserve
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@vincent lambert I got the same email back from them. Of course I agree, Kickstarter should be able to do more, they have address/private data of the project people and can demand more info at the very least
laserve
Review from Kickstarter
If there are logistic problems or something alike please just tell us!
Rouslan Cherbina
Review from Kickstarter
Update was recently via Facebook page.
kinder112
Review from Kickstarter
Please do an update!!!
vincent Lambert
Review from Kickstarter
Kickstarter Support (Kickstarter) May 21, 10:07 AM EDT Bonjour Vincent, Merci pour votre message. Ce projet a peut-être pris un peu de retard, mais il ne faut pas oublier que Kickstarter est une plateforme destinée aux projets créatifs et au processus de création. Cela signifie que soutenir un projet, ce n'est pas comme commander quelque chose sur une boutique en ligne. Notre page Confiance et sécurité contient plus de détails à ce sujet. Si vous avez des questions pour ce créateur de projet, nous vous conseillons de le contacter directement. Pour ce faire, cliquez simplement sur la page de projet, puis sur l'image de profil du créateur située à gauche du nom du projet. La biographie du créateur s'ouvre et vous pouvez cliquer sur le lien bleu « Contact » pour lui envoyer un message. Si vous avez d'autres questions, n'hésitez pas à nous contacter. Bien à vous,
Julien Voici ce que j'ai répondu Donc ceci n'est pas une réponse, la communauté de neuroon sur votre site n'a plus de nouvelles via le site, via votre site et autre et personne n'a plus de contact avec eux. Vous dites être une plateforme de création, mais votre responsabilité n'est pas seulement de faciliter, mais de valider et verifier. Vous devriez être facilitateur de contact aussi vu que vous les endossez d'une certaine façon. Maintenant vous avez une communauté de contributeurs qui sont excedés du non respect des communications établies par le créateur même. De plus, dans les nouvelles ailleurs il y a meme vent que ce créateur a reçu un financement de 2m dans son pays. Maintenant svp aidez les gens qui commencent a être sérieusement excédés du manque de communication et de transparence de nos créateurs. Votre responsabilité commence ou celle du créateur s'arrete et si celui-ci refuse de répondre votre responsabilité est d'aider les gens qui se sentent floués!!!! Merci de votre aide et de nous revenir.
David PONS
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Jean François ! Oui ! David PONS ;-) je suis avec une fille en photo de profil.
David Ashton
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I would like to request a refund. Please contact me arrange as soon as possible.
Rouslan Cherbina
Review from Kickstarter
Looks like its not going to happen this year (( oh well...
Jean-François Baure
Review from Kickstarter
@David Pons, oui svp, tenez nous au courant. Êtes vous un des David Pons présents sur Facebook pour correspondre en privé ?
David PONS
Review from Kickstarter
Plainte déposée ce matin auprès de la Police Nationale. Pour les français que ça intéresse, je vous tiendrais au courant.
Jean-François Baure
Review from Kickstarter
Marco Nissen
Review from Kickstarter
Any news ?