Nums Smart Glass Trackpad Keyboard

@Larry Njume: We are looking for every opportunity to grow. We will look into that. Thank you again Larry!

@Larry Njume: Hi Larry, thank you so much for your interest in Nums. We really appreciate it. We just launched Nums Gold yesterday, so it's very new to the product family. We will open up more color options for pre-2016 MacBook products later this year.

The photos on our campaign page are all shot with the actual products. The silver ink is metallic. It reflects light, including screen light, so you could use it with ease even in dark environment :) Our inventor is obsessed with perfecting every detail. The hardware looks sleek on your MacBook. The symbols are easy to see and it doesn't standout too much so it ruins the overall look of your MacBook.

Please feel free to let us know if you have other questions.

Thanks,
Team Nums

I'll also be looking for you guys when I get my hands on a Eve V (surface pro competitor). Hope you develop one for it too <3

Just making sure. Is Nums: Gold a definite no on pre-2016 macs? I only ask because I'm woried about not being able to see white/silver on a white/silver trackpad. (Getting ready to buy my first mac product)

@Ahrom Kim: Hi Ahrom, thank you very much for your interest in Nums. We love your suggestions. What you mentioned in your comment is very important to us. We have tried over 50 materials for the hardware. Unfortunately, right now we can't settle for a cheaper stick, because the touch and feel is just not good, or at least doesn't meet our standards. We've also tried to separate out the hardware and software. The user experience is not optimal. Without the hardware, consumers have more tying errors, which cause unnecessary stress... Nums does bring the best of both worlds. The quality of the hardware is world-class.

Thank you again for your suggestion. We are constantly looking for ways to improve. Make Nums more accessible to more consumers are one of the most important goals. We welcome more suggestions and we look forward to your feedback and support. Thanks again,
Team Nums

@Tijl De Cuyper: Hi Tijl, thank you so much for your interest and support for Nums! We really appreciate it. We are in conversation with some of the leading laptop manufacturers for Windows laptops and we are extremely excited about what will come in the next year :) Stay tuned!!

@Andrea: Hi Andrea, thank you so much for your interest in Nums. We really appreciate it. We are excited to share with you that we just launched Nums for Surface Book :) Please feel free to let us know if you have other question. We look forward to your feedback and support. Thank you again,
Team Nums

@Kenneth Lam: Hi Kenneth, thank you so much for your interest in Nums! We really appreciate it. We appreciate your effort in researching our product. Thank you!

To answer your question, 1) We actually included our reddot trophy and award certificate in our timeline at the end of our campaign page. Nums won reddot design in 2011 in the design concept category. reddot's website only index design concept awards back till 2014. which is why you didn't find our information online. Here is the website: http://www.red-dot.sg/en/online-exhibitions-listing/. We had many media coverage back then in 2011, including the leading design site in Japan, Yanko Design. Here is their coverage of Nums back in 2011: http://www.yankodesign.com/2011/12/12/hot-number/. We have been working on this product for the past 6 years since our inventor won the reddot award. 2) We mentioned in our previous comment that Nums had two generations of products. Taobao has our first generation product. We are bringing our most updated product to Nums that has NOT been sold anywhere in the world. The current product we are bringing to Kickstarter has metallic ink and multi-arc ion Plasma coating techniques. These two manufacturing techniques are very difficult to maintain. In fact, among hundreds of factories, currently only 5 in China could produce the product that meets our standards. Because we want to bring the best product to Kickstarter backers, we want to keep the standards high, which means high rejection rate (every 100 products we produce, 40 of them will be rejected according to our standards).

In fact, we have gone through Kickstarter's review process to launch our product. The platform made sure it's a brand new product, otherwise they wouldn't approve it :) Our app is not in Apple store and we are working with Apple store team to launch it soon. Like we mentioned our page, the drive could be downloaded from our website, luckeytech.com. Right now the site is designed to guide people to our Kickstarter page.

Moreover, we are also one of the finalists of Good Design award. (The final review is on 8/9, wish us luck :)) We mentioned in our previous updates that this award requires participants to have a completed product to participate (including the software). We are very excited about the final review. We are also a 6-year old company with VC funding. If we could point you to the "why back us" section on our campaign page, from the beginning of the campaign, we shared that we are raising funds for productions. We are looking to build a community, looking for feedback and need support for our future development (which we accomplished two of our goals, colored Nums and Nums for Surface.). We want to transform laptop trackpads, and we mean it :)

I think i should stand out and point out 2 questions to stop this potential fraud. 1. I cannot find this product on both red dots web site and app. Did this product really win the award? 2. I have seen this product on TaoBao.com, why are you raise fund for a exist product which has been selling in market?

So reading through comments and description, it seems that physical product is pretty much just for protection and guide for the app. Then why not make a cheaper sticker type instead of glass pads for people who only would like to use app but don't want to draw on the trackpad? I think the product is excellent, but it does seem high-end. I'm sure many would be willing to purchase the app if there was a cheaper alternative for physical product (e.g. Vinyl sticker?)

any support for microsoft surface book?

succes guys, hope you'll be able to make it a succes and will devellop for Windows, HP probook series !

What is the different between
(Pledge $46_2016 MacBook Pro 13") & (Pledge $39_pre-2016 MacBooks / MacBook 12") I'm using MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014)

@JON LIU: Hi Jon, thank you so much for your interest in Nums™. We really appreciate it. If you'd like to pledge for 2 Nums™, just select the $39 reward and in the amount box, put in ($39+$55=) $94. We will send emails to confirm your MacBook models, quantity, and shipping address when the campaign ends. It usually take Kickstarter 14 days to confirm your payment method. Thank you so much again. We can't wait to share our invention with you. Best,
Team Nums

@Albert Loh: Hi Albert, thank you so much for your interest in Nums. We really appreciate it. The great news is that we actually have successfully tested Nums with the Magic Trackpads. We are not sure about the demand, so we didn't include it on our page. However, we will continue our pre-order soon and we will include it on our pre-order page, along with other products like Nums™ for Surface. Stay tuned! We can't wait to share our invention with you :) Thanks,
Team Nums

@Stefano: Hi Stefano, thank you so much for your support! We really appreciate it. Yes, you selected the right reward. We can't wait to share our invention with you. Thank you very much again . Best,
Team Nums

@Harold van Berlo: Hi Harold, thank you so much for your support! We really appreciate it. We will start confirming your MacBook model, quantity, and your shipping address, after the campaign ends. Kickstarter takes 14 days to confirm your payment. We are trying to see if it's possible to send out the survey early, especially for our early bird backers. We appreciate you checking in with us. We are eager to share our invention with you. Stay tuned! Thanks,
Team Nums

@creator My mac: Mac Pro,13 inch, late 2013. Did I pledge correctly? Thanks,

Still my question, I think you do not know my address. Is that still being asked? Otherwise nothing can be sent to me of course. Harold.

@Charles: Hi Charles, thank you again for your support. Yes, it will fit seamlessly :) We can't wait to share our invention with you. We welcome all feedbacks and suggestions. Let's transform the small piece of flat surface, aka trackpad, together. Thanks again,
Team Nums

Thank you very much for responding. But my MacBook as I said is late 2011. The questions isn't about software. It's about hardware. Will it still fit?

@Yuntak Jeong: Thank you so much for your support. We are sending out reward surveys to our early bird backers this weekend. Once we collected all the information by next week, we will start the shipping asap. We've selected our fulfillment company, so if everything goes right, you could have Nums on your MacBook by mid-August :)

@Charles: Hi Charles, thank you very much for your support. We have been in full speed trying to set up for shipping. Apologies for the delay in response. We also assure you that your comment didn't get deleted... We have multiple Facebook posts running, with same message and picture. It's likely that you saw different ones :)

Nums brings the best of both worlds together, both of the software and the hardware. We have tested them separately and together. It really brings the best consumer experience when we combine the two together. Without the hardware, we saw many typing errors, which caused unnecessary anxieties. Plus our aluminosilicate glass has gone through many manufacturing process (some are used only by luxury brands like Ferrari :)). It has amazingly smooth touch and feel, and provides even less frictions than Apple's original trackpads.

We are one of the finalists for the prestigious Good Design Award, an award that looks that everything of a product, from design, to user experience, to material used, to eco-friendly manufacturing process, and even to if the product brings improvement to the exiting industrial design culture. This award requires participants to have a completed product to participate (including the software). We are very excited about the final review. We are also a 6-year old company with VC funding. We want to transform laptop trackpads, and we mean it :)

In terms of software updates, right now we are updating at a bi-monthly basis. During the past 6 years of development, team Nums has been through many OS updates, so it's definitely not new to us. In fact, earlier this year, right after Apple releases the new OS system, our engineers worked for many sleepless nights to update our software, so that we could bring the latest product to our Kickstarter community :) Therefore, no worries if Apple releases another update to the software. We are on it.

In terms of how long we will update the software for, let's put it this way, we have big plans for our product, especially the software. In the past couple of months, we've had many significant breakthroughs like we mentioned in our latest update. These include more personalized gestures. For example, swipe a "G" to open Google search; swipe a circle to initiate a shortcut like "control+shift+X". Our vision of the future of the trackpad, is to turn it from a navigation tool to an access entrance. Consumers could access anything locally on their laptops or online, via simple gesture interactions with their trackpads.

Lastly, Kickstarter doesn't allow us to update the rewards once it's backed, but we did have successfully tested Nums with non-retina and pre-2016 MacBook and MacBook pros. As long as your MBP could be updated to the latest OS system, Nums will work perfectly. Nums is also re-stickable, so if you upgrade to the latest MacBook, you could just take it off, and re-attach it to the new trackpad :) 2012 MacBook should be able to update to the latest system last time we check, so your choice of reward is perfect.

We apologize for the delay in response again. Please feel free to let us know if you have other questions. We are happy to answer all of them.

Many thanks again for your support! We are very grateful.
We can't wait to share our invention with you and we look forward to your feedback.

Best,
Team Nums

A little worried, instead of answer my question...here or on their FB page...they deleted it instead...and haven't answered it here....wondering if this KS is legit now?

when it does get shipped?

Also, will your pre-2016 / 12" one fit/work with 2011 MacBook Pro 15"? You reference retina, but I believe that was only post 2012 models. This is what I have
https://support.apple.com/kb/sp644… Upgraded it with 16gb Ram and Samsung 850 Pro 2TB SSD and it dances circles around some of the "newer models" so never had a reason to upgrade.

So just to clarify, this physical product is only a high end "sticker" and the REAL product is the driver for the MacBook that will treat the existing trackpad as a number pad?
This sound good, but what can we expect for driver support? How do we know this product won't be useless when Mac updates their operating system again?
How long are you promising driver updates for??? Unless your product goes successfully beyond Kickstarter, this doesn't seem viable. Please let us know what your plans and guarantees are. I'd am thinking about upgrading to get some for my family but am hesitant until this is clarified. Thank you.

Hi, by any chance Nums works on a Apple Magic Trackpad v1 device?

How can i pledge for a 12" Macbook (usb-c) AND 2016 15" Macbook Pro (usb-c)?

Hi, One hope/suggestion - will it support Line app? That would be great!

Hi, i back you up with a order for my 13" macbook. I didn't have to give you my adres. But i Think thats nesesary to sent it to me. When will you ask for it?

Does the 15% off for backerclub members apply to early bird pricing ie $38 less 15%??

其实与淘宝的预购有什麽分别?

Perhaps you could list the sizes of the nums in the FAQ. There might be some that will fit windows laptops. But then that also depends on a supported windows application.

@i hate buying gas: Thank you for the quick reply and for sharing your laptop model. We really appreciate it. Thank you also for sharing your suggestion. It's a good one. We will communicate it with our engineering team, to see if this is something they have tried in the past.

From the number typing perspective, we have tried to only use the software and the user experience doesn't meet our standards. Because users can't see exactly where to touch to type, it causes many typing errors and unnecessary stress. It actually slows down the process, because users have to correct their input. The best experience happens when we bring both software and hardware together.

We are constantly looking for opportunities to improve. Please feel free to let us know if you have other questions or suggestions. We are grateful for the opportunity to listen to our customers :) Many thanks,
Team Nums

@happy: Thank you so much for your interest in Nums™. We really appreciate it.

Nums™ brings the best of software and hardware together. We chose to stick with the integration, because it brings the best user experience. We have tried to not pair the hardware to the software, and just use the application to type numbers and use the gesture interactions. It does work; however, because users can't see exactly where to touch to type, it causes many typing errors and unnecessary stress. It didn't meet our standards for the best user experience. Therefore, our ultra-thin Aluminosilicate glass does more than providing a grid and protection; it effectively elevates the product efficiency and user experience. On this note, we actually received many creative comments on social media. One of many comment is "why not draw boxes on trackpads to achieve the same level of efficiency?” Why would you do that to your trackpad? We asked. It really doesn't look good when you draw on your trackpad and pretty much ruins the trackpad, the opposite of protecting your trackpad... ;) We are very proud of our sleek design. This sleek design has won many industrial design awards, including reddot 'best of best' (only top 1% of all entries) and we are currently in the final review for 'Good Design' award. We have mentioned in our previous comments how Nums™ stands by the highest level of production standards. Ultra-thin special metallic ink, multi-arc plasma coating, symbols on the back of the glass, etc. Many of these hardward designs are first-evers in the industry. We don't settle down for 'good enough'. Same on the appearance. All our photos on the page are shot with the actual products. Nums™ not only transforms trackpads from the functional perspective, but also on the appearance. On top of protecting your trackpad from oil build-up and many other damages, Nums™ does make your trackpad look cool. Many thanks again for your interest and support! We are really grateful for every opportunity to grow and to improve. We look forward to your feedback and support! Best,
Team Nums

I have a Toshiba satellite e45wc4200x.
Trackpad is roughly L 106mm x W 66mm.
I am also considering replacing my mouse with a trackpad (not sure which yet). I am not interested in the overlay, just the software. So it would be nice if we could specify the trackpad size within the application and make setting from there.

@i hate buying gas: Hi, thank you so much for your interest in Nums™! We are really grateful for all the support we have received in the past 3 weeks. Thank you.

Great news - from the software side, we have achieved significant breakthroughs. Our chief engineer has told us (literally last week) that our software could now function stably on many windows laptops. We even added more gesture interactions. For example, you could launch applications by just swipe a circle or any custom gesture on your trackpad (not limited to number boxes). How exciting! The software is currently going through beta trials and more optimizations, so it could more accurately recognize finger movements. When we move our fingers on the trackpad, there are many touch points and could produce a lot of "noise". Cutting through all these "noises" to accurately understand users' intention is one of the core technologies of Nums™. Therefore, this trial and optimization period is extremely important.

We also have some great news on the hardware side. The team has tried many creative solutions to solve the trackpad size issues for Windows. One of the solutions has been performing consistently well. We are also in conversation with some of the top laptop manufacturers to see if there's opportunity there.

Team Nums is very excited about our progress at the Windows front. We are planning to share more in detail in our updates. Stay tuned!

It might be a good idea for us to start collecting consumer wishlist for Windows :) If you don't mind, could you please let us know your Windows laptop model?

We also provide a "Nums Supporter" reward, which includes an iphone charging cable, our inventor's sketches and an exclusive ID code. The Kickstarter exclusive ID code could be used to redeem for discounts when you purchase our products in the future (i.e. our Windows or Surface products).

Many thanks again for your interest and support for Nums™. We really appreciate it. We look forward to your feedback and support.

Best,
Team Nums

@John LaRavia: [-continued] Another important manufacturing technique we have insisted in maintaining is Acid Etching. This technique could bring the best touch and feel, almost identical to Apple's original touchpad. The most common technique used in this industry is "spray technique" to create a similar touch; however, the disadvantage of this commonly used technique is that it doesn't last long. We highly respect our Kickstarter community and only want to bring you the best-in-class product. We have insisted in using Acid Etching technique, because not only it creates the best touch, but also lasts the longest. Because our glass is ultra-thin, only 0.26mm, acid etching is extremely hard and increases our rejection rate even further. The latest MacBooks' trackpads are actually thinner. Nums™ for all new models are -30% thinner, which is also why we have to separate the new and old models in our rewards (explained in FAQ as well). Our team has pulled numerous all-nighters with the factories a couple of months before our Kickstarter launch, to make sure that we could bring this world-class quality products to you and we are ready for the most number of models. High rejection rate and high cost are mainly why you almost see no product in the accessory market could afford to maintain this high level of standards. Many manufacturers chose to give up and settle for the "good enough". Only the top tier brands are maintaining the high level of standards. One of them is Rolls-Royce :) Because of the high rejection rate (or in other words, low rate of good product) and the fact that only very few factories in China could meet our standards, our cost has increased significantly, almost double what we had for the 1st non-metallic ink Nums™ (shown in 'The evolution of Nums' section)... We also mentioned this in our "Risk and Challenges" section. The very few factories that could consistently produce products that meet our standards are also the ones that are hired by luxury brands. We are also constantly optimizing our algorithms. Our engineers have worked tirelessly this year so that current product that we are bringing to Kickstarter could support the latest model of MacBooks. This is also brand new, as the 2017 MacBooks were released only earlier this year. We didn't want to bring these many details to our backers, as we respect our backers' time and we want to present the most important thing to you, our product and how much technology goes behind it. But to protect our products from unnecessary shipping damages, we are not using cheap overseas shipping companies either. Oversea shipping costs way more than domestic and involves many challenging conditions. We have developed a new packaging to protect our products during the shipping process (we will release some photos in our updates soon). This process also further increased our cost. We are devoted to perfecting every detail and we mean it. Before we launch our product on Kickstarter, we have already consulted with Kickstarter staff, to make sure that we are bringing Kickstarter backers the latest invention we have. We only launched after we received the confirmation from our Kickstarter staff :) So please rest assure that every step in the process, we made sure that we align with the community standards. We are proud to have been selected as "project we love" by the Kickstarter staff and Team Nums has been immensely grateful for all the support we have received. Thank you John again for your interest in Nums™. Please feel free to let us know if you have other questions and we are happy to take suggestions as well. "Do one thing, and do one thing great" is our standard. We are grateful for every opportunity to grow and to improve our product. We look forward to your feedback and support. Many thanks again,
Team Nums

@John LaRavia: Hi John, thank you for your interest and support for Nums! We really appreciate it. To answer your question, we are bringing our most updated product to Nums that has NOT been sold anywhere in the world. If we could point you to the "evolution of Nums" section on our page, the current product we are bringing to Kickstarter has metallic ink and multi-arc ion Plasma coating techniques. These two manufacturing techniques are very difficult to maintain. In fact, among hundreds of factories, currently only 5 in China could produce the product that meets our standards. Because we want to bring the best product to Kickstarter backers, we want to keep the standards high, which means high rejection rate (every 100 products we produce, 40 of them will be rejected according to our standards).

Wow, at first sight I thought this is great and creative, but I feel very disappointed the moment I Googled this product, I found it it has been sold on Chinese website for a long time!!! Isn't that something that is against the idea of Kickstarter? We backers pay for something or an idea that has not been there in the market yet! But you sold it for 129 RMB in China, which is like 17 USD, and here you sell it for 39 USD, this is not acceptable, I copy the link here, backers, see for yourself, I will report this to Kickstarter! https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm…

Mine too

Hi there, I believe you missed my questions. Thanks in advance.

@Lee Jr: Thank you so much Lee for letting us know. We will make the adjustment ASAP. Thank you!

There is something wrong with the Pledging input. It will not let list, or let me choose any other country except for the USA yet the pledge says 'anywhere in the world'. I have had to pledge to the US just so that i could post this comment by i need to ship to Thailand. Please advise ASAP. Thank you

@Rees Maxwell: Hi Rees, thank you so much for your interest in Nums and for your question. Please rest assure that Nums will not touch the screen when you close your MacBook. We used two main manufacturing techniques to make sure Nums fits seamlessly with your Trackpad. 1) We 'forced' our manufacturer to produce a special ink that's 0.001 mm thick, thinner than a human hair. The symbols then are printed on the back of the glass and won't wear out. They also don't affect your touch and feel of the trackpad. 2) Acid-etching. It helps us to precisely cut the glass to fit the trackpad. We even refined the edges of the glass, so there's only minimum space between the trackpad and Nums glass. Thank you again! We look forward to your feedback and support!

Okay, so I can see that the screen is lifted up a bit from the keyboard/trackpad by a thin bumper around it. I'd still like to hear from the @Creator that the NUMS won't touch the screen when the lid is closed on my 2016 Touch MBP. Thanks!